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He set his affairs in order and then he hanged himself. He was buried in the tomb of his fathers (verse 23).<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why does Ahithophel kill himself? Why does he get such a relatively long end to his story?<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ahithophel first appears on the scene in II Samuel 15 as someone who supported Absalom. There is no backstory for Ahithophel and he is not even listed earlier in David\u2019s group of advisors II Samuel 8. But Ahithophel\u2019s defection was frightening to David: \u201cDavid said \u2018God, please ruin Ahithophel\u2019s advice\u2019\u201d (15:31).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is a little unclear yet why David is so afraid, but in 16:23 Ahithophel\u2019s advice is described as if it came straight from God\u2019s mouth. This is clearly a higher level of praise than even Jonadab, Amnon\u2019s friend who was also a court adviser. 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In this chapter, both of David\u2019s assumptions were validated: Ahithophel indeed delivered sage and pertinent advice to Absalom, and only Hushai was able to override that advice. The result was salvific for David, who lived to fight another day (22), but catastrophic for Ahithophel, who took it so personally that he returned home to Gilo and commited suicide (23). Gilo, the southern suburb of Jerusalem, is considered to be situated in reasonable proximity to the biblical site of the same name.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yet another of David\u2019s preemptive strategies paid off in this chapter. Ahimaaz and Jonathan, sons of the priests Zadok and Evyatar, were his spies in Absalom\u2019s camp and brought him word of Hushai\u2019s success and Ahithophel\u2019s comeuppance. Some details of their escapade, however, warrant further investigation. First of all, there is the manner in which they evaded detection by Absalom\u2019s soldiers: While they hid in a well, a woman covered its mouth with drying pitas and pointed the pursuers in the wrong direction, strikingly reminiscent of the manner in which Joshua\u2019s spies were aided by Rahab (Joshua 2).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">More subtle, albeit more significant, is the fact that this took place in Bahurim, which was home to Shimei son of Gera, identified as \u201cfrom Saul\u2019s family\u201d (16:5). 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He taught at the Hebrew Union College (Jerusalem), The Hebrew University in Jerusalem, the Schechter Institute for Judaic Studies in Jerusalem, and at the Ben-Gurion University in Beer Sheba, Israel. During 1993 he was Visiting Associate Professor at Yale University, and during 1996 he was the Stroum Professor of Jewish Studies and Visiting Research Fellow at the University of Washington in Seattle. During 2005, Bregman served as the Harry Starr Fellow in Judaica at Harvard University and was awarded a Teaching Fellowship at the Center for Advanced Judaic Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. He also has served as Forchheimer Visiting Professor in the Faculty of Humanities at The Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He is the author of The Tanhuma-Yelammedenu Literature: Studies in the Evolution of the Versions (Gorgias Press, 2003). 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An evil man with some good moments? He left himself, and us, hanging","post_main_content_content":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In our chapter, Hushai manages to counter Ahithophel\u2019s advice to Absalom to attack David and his meager forces without delay (see also Psalms 41:9; 55:12\u201314, and 2 Samuel 15:12). This allows David to escape once again. Ahithophel, David\u2019s once trusted counselor, whose advice has now been rejected, returns home to Giloh and commits suicide (17:1-23).<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to Talmud Bavli Sanhedrin 106a, Ahithophel was a pre-eminent Torah scholar. Curiously, the 16<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">th<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> century eminent rabbi, talmudist, and posek, Moshe Isserles, records in his work Torat Ha-Olah 11:1, that he found in \u201can old book\u201d, that the great Greek philosopher, Socrates, was a disciple of none other than our Ahitophel.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to Talmud Bavli Makkot 11a, Ahithophel did, on occasion, give David very good and important advice. When David was excavating the foundations for the Temple in Jerusalem, the waters of the primeval Chaos (Tehom \u2013 see Genesis 1:2) came surging up, threatening to flood the world.\u00a0 David inquired if it might be permissible to write the Divine Name of God on a potsherd and use it to stop the upsurge of the primordial waters.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When no one replied immediately, David shouted out: Whoever knows the answer and does not reveal it, let him be strangled by his throat in punishment for remaining silent at such a critical moment! On hearing this curse, Ahithophel reasoned\u00a0 to himself, employing the Rabbinic principle of <\/span><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">qal ve-homer<\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (drawing inference from a minor case to the major case): If in order to restore peace between husband and wife, the Divine Name of God may be washed off in the \u201cbitter waters\u201d (in the <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>sotah<\/em> <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ritual, see Numbers 5:23), how much the more so may the Divine Name be washed off to save the whole world! So, he advised David that using the Divine Name for what David proposed is permissible. David acted on Ahithophel\u2019s sage advice and the world was saved.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nevertheless, later when Ahithophel saw that his advice to Absalom to immediately attack David was not followed, he returned home and hung himself (17:23).<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For the rabbinic sages, Ahithophel was a classic example of a wicked person (<em>rasha<\/em>\u2019), who has no share in the world to come (Mishnah Sanhedrin 11:1). According to Midrash Tanhuma Buber Va-Yetze 6: \u201cThe death of the wicked is neither on earth or in the heavens\u201d, as exemplified by Ahithophel who hanged himself between heaven and earth. So too the death of Haman and his sons (see Esther, Chapters 7 and 9).<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On a personal note, as a resident of the Jerusalem neighborhood of Giloh, I find it a bit disturbing that such a wicked personality as Ahithophel is said to have come from the biblical village of Giloh (see Joshua 15:51, 2 Samuel 15:12). 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He has written over twenty books, focusing on such topics as the European novel from the 18th century to the present, contemporary American fiction, and modern Hebrew literature. He has also written extensively on the literary aspects of the Bible. His most recent work is his monumental three volume translation of the entire Hebrew Bible - The Hebrew Bible, W. W. Norton & Co., 2019 -  from which the selections in 929 are taken. ","short_description":"Robert Alter is the Class of 1937 Professor of Hebrew and Comparative Literature at the University of California at Berkeley, and author of the three-volume translation of the entire Hebrew Bible - The Hebrew Bible, W. W. 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This is still another instance in the David story in which the enterprising intervention of a shrewd woman saves the day. As has often been noted, this moment alludes to the story told in Joshua 2 of Rahab the harlot, who hides the two spies sent out to Jericho by Joshua. In Joshua, the spies are hidden up above, in the roof thatch; here they hide below in the well. There may be a certain agricultural affinity between the covering of thatch and the cloth covered with groats (if that is what the anomalous Hebrew <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">rifot<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> means) under which the pairs of spies hide. In any case, the destruction of all the men of Jericho who sought Joshua\u2019s spies foreshadows the destruction of Absalom\u2019s army.<\/span><\/p>\r\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From: Robert Alter, <em>The Hebrew Bible<\/em>, vol. 2: Prophets, W. W. Norton &amp; Co., 2019, ad loc. 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