{"id":60359,"date":"2019-07-31T11:40:01","date_gmt":"2019-07-31T08:40:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp.929.org.il\/?p=60359"},"modified":"2023-02-23T12:35:41","modified_gmt":"2023-02-23T10:35:41","slug":"the-king-and-his-general-intertwined","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wp.929.org.il\/en\/the-king-and-his-general-intertwined\/","title":{"rendered":"The King And His General, Intertwined"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-content\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[281],"tags":[834,900,895],"acf":{"old_id":"60359","type":"no","iframe":"","writer":34891,"related_cahpter":"275","type_929":"2","show_author_image":false,"old_create_date":"","old_url":"","post_main_content":{"description":"David owes his kingship to Joab\u2019s loyalty, and Joab owes his position to David\u2019s favor","content":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The central drama of this chapter unfolds around Nathan confronting David, and around the birth and death of David and Bathsheba\u2019s child. But,<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/929.org.il\/lang\/en\/author\/34891\/post\/58967\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">as always<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Joab is waiting in the wings, and he emerges at the end of the chapter.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The events of Chapters 11 and 12 take place within a frame story that begins in 11:1 &#8211; Joab\u2019s war against Amon on behalf of David. Throughout it all, Joab has been at the front while David has been in Jerusalem.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The frame story comes to its conclusion at the end of chapter 12, beginning in verse 26: \u201cJoab attacked Rabbah of Ammon and captured the royal city.\u201d In verse 28, Joab sends a message to David to come to the front himself, \u201cmuster the rest of the troops and besiege the city and capture it; otherwise I will capture the city myself, and my name will be connected with it,\u201d and in verse 27, David in fact comes to finish the job.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So who captured Rabbah, Joab or David? The verses seem to attribute the same victory to both. This seeming inconsistency yet again highlights the<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/929.org.il\/lang\/en\/author\/34891\/post\/59746\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">interdependence<\/span><\/a> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">between Joab and David. Without Joab\u2019s work in the background of these two chapters, David would have nothing to show for the time but some capital crimes and a dead child. Further, Joab knows, and makes sure David knows he knows, that Joab could snatch all the glory of the military victory for himself (\u201cmy name will be connected with it\u201d). As in Chapter 11, Joab proves himself indispensable through his very loyalty. And yet, without David, Joab would have no one\u2019s army to lead.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Talmud, in Sanhedrin 49a, hints at this interdependence, albeit with its own spin on David\u2019s side of the work: \u201cWere it not for David [who studied Torah], Joab would not have been able to wage war successfully, and were it not for the military acumen of Joab, David would not have been able to study Torah. As it is written: \u201cAnd David executed judgment and justice to all his people, and Joab, son of Zeruiah, was over the army\u201d (II Samuel 8:15\u201316).\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In some fundamental way, David owes his kingship to Joab\u2019s loyalty, and Joab owes his position to David, notwithstanding David\u2019s curse, in chapter 3.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Over the coming chapters, David\u2019s house will begin to unravel in the aftermath of his sin.\u00a0 Throughout these difficult times, Joab\u2019s centrality to David\u2019s success will become even more clear.<\/span><\/p>\n","image":{"ID":60360,"id":60360,"title":"2sam12-david and 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