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The argument of Korah and all his company\u201d (Mishna Avot 5:17).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Following Meiri and other medieval commentators, the sages are here distinguishing between an argument for the sake of truth and one for the sake of victory. Hillel and Shammai were arguing for the sake of truth, the determination of God&#8217;s will. Korach, who challenged Moses and Aaron for leadership, was arguing for the sake of victory: he too wanted to be a leader. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In argument for the sake of truth, if you win, you win, but if you lose, you also win, because being defeated by the truth is the only defeat that is also a victory. We are enlarged thereby. In an argument for the sake of victory, if you lose, you lose, but if you win, you also lose, for by diminishing your opponents, you diminish yourself. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Moses won the argument against Korach, but only at the cost of invoking a miracle in which the earth opened up and swallowed his opponents. Yet this did not end the argument. The next day the people gathered against Moses, saying: \u00a0&#8216;You have killed the people of the Lord&#8217; (Num. 16: 41). In this kind of confrontation, there is no benign outcome. You can only aim at minimizing the tragedy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The entire thrust of postmodernism, inspired by Marx and Freud, is to develop a &#8216;hermeneutics of suspicion&#8217; in which there is no truth, only victory. Every argument is a (concealed) exercise of power, an attempt to establish a &#8216;hegemonic discourse.&#8217; Judaism rejects this idea, not because it is never true \u2013 in the case of an argument not for the sake of heaven, it is \u2013 but because we can always tell when it is and when it isn&#8217;t. There is such a thing as truth, and collaborative argument in pursuit of it. 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